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![[F2U] Pony Base (#5)](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4c66a2d8-f4de-4334-961c-a6a429d349d4/da59c01-7b9d8660-226e-429c-9686-fcfdff79532f.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzRjNjZhMmQ4LWY0ZGUtNDMzNC05NjFjLWE2YTQyOWQzNDlkNFwvZGE1OWMwMS03YjlkODY2MC0yMjZlLTQyOWMtOTY4Ni1mY2ZkZmY3OTUzMmYucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.uoV5WKbKt8w7a2SWg2GHOhCXmRFZdwOVxZkkxpvJEZk)
Deviation Actions
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![[P2U] 4 PONY MLP ADOPT BASES](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4c66a2d8-f4de-4334-961c-a6a429d349d4/deak063-5ba69ee7-44d0-4aca-8b34-77b80f1f2c0a.png/v1/crop/w_92,h_92,x_5,y_0,scl_0.085264133456905/_p2u__4_pony_mlp_adopt_bases_by_miiksteak_deak063-92s.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTA3OSIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzRjNjZhMmQ4LWY0ZGUtNDMzNC05NjFjLWE2YTQyOWQzNDlkNFwvZGVhazA2My01YmE2OWVlNy00NGQwLTRhY2EtOGIzNC03N2I4MGYxZjJjMGEucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEzMDgifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.z7Xbo3qC7tCNctoH9-IYPtMMwWDxuxeEG7L9M491Guc)
![[P2U] PONY LIGHT BASE (NO ADD-ONS) 250p/2.50 USD](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4c66a2d8-f4de-4334-961c-a6a429d349d4/dbk994b-ab1a6d68-374e-415d-994a-e1b555f289c6.png/v1/crop/w_92,h_92,x_0,y_6,scl_0.11302211302211/_p2u__pony_light_base__no_add_ons__250p_2_50_usd_by_miiksteak_dbk994b-92s.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTAyMCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzRjNjZhMmQ4LWY0ZGUtNDMzNC05NjFjLWE2YTQyOWQzNDlkNFwvZGJrOTk0Yi1hYjFhNmQ2OC0zNzRlLTQxNWQtOTk0YS1lMWI1NTVmMjg5YzYucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTgxNCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.tjw8fX9UYU9PEiYwp57D5_eM4OvuKkQZhFUEGgVZd8Q)
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... Ah, yes, adding to my MLP base collection, because why the fuck not...? So I tried something new, sort of a mix between my style and #4; so technically just thinner legs... Had a lot of fun on this one... And hey, I actually used my current account name for a watermark...
... If there are any issues, please inform me, thank you...
PLEASE CREDIT
... Thaaannks... Oh, and send a link to the finished product, I love to see them...
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